1912: And a change in Command

And a Change in Command

Colonels 1911During May Major John Morton Clayton (right) took over Command of the 6th Battalion from Lieut.-Colonel Geoffrey Meinertzhagen Jackson (left). Colonel Jackson had been gazetted 2nd Lieutenant in the 2VB the Sherwood Foresters on 11th April 1891 and had been allowed an extended term of Command. Indeed, Jackson had taken over Command of the Battalion in May 1904 from Colonel Herbert Brooke-Taylor (centre) and he was instrumental in the smooth transfer from the 2nd Volunteer Battalion to the 6th Battalion Notts and Derby Regiment under the “Territorial and Reserve Forces Act of 1907”.


The Regimental Annual records that musketry training was difficult to organise, but during the year several local ‘miniature ranges’ were improved and many of the men were able to qualify under either the standard test or under TF regulations, whilst seven men qualified as marksmen following successful completion of Part III of the Regular Soldier’s Course. It is interesting to record that 166 Colour-Sergeant William Barker of “D” Company was 16th in the Queen Mary’s Competition at Bisley with 141 points. During the later part of the year an Inter-Company Competition was held at Edale for the Battalion Challenge Shield.


North Midland Divisional CampAberysthwyth

In August the Battalion attended its annual training camp in the neighbourhood of Aberystwyth. This was a North Midland (NM) Division camp under the command of Major-General Hubert Hamilton, C.B., D.S.O., (1861-1914) and all the units of the Division were present with the exception of the Northamptonshire Yeomanry and the 2nd and 4th Brigades of Artillery.

The North Midland Division was arranged into three separate camps; each in a different valley which all converged on Aberystwyth:-

1) The Notts & Derby Brigade were camped at Llanfarian with the 2nd NM A.S.C. and the 1st NM Field Ambulance all under the Command of Colonel C.T. Shipley.

2) North Midland Divisional Headquarters and the Lincoln and Leicestershire Brigade were camped at Lovesgrove with the 1st NM Brigade R.A., A.S.C. and the 2nd NM Field Ambulance all under the command of Colonel Carthew-Yorstoun.

3) At Bow Street were the Staffordshire Brigade with the 3rd NM Brigade R.A., A.S.C. and the 3rd NM Field Ambulance all under the command of Colonel A. J. Chapman.

During the Camp the men of the Notts & Derby Brigade undertook training on the moor above the Camp, which was varied in its topography and therefore suitable for a variety of different training activities.


At least three different photographers visited the Camp to record the events and included Hans Peter Hansen (Ashbourne), Albert Heath (Clay Cross) and Hiam Lang (Cardiff).

Camp 1912The Notts and Derby Brigade campsite at Llanfarian (unknown publisher).

This campsite was also known as ‘Abermaide’ (by the 6th Battalion) and ‘Aberystwyth’ (by the 8th Battalion). The 7th and 8th Battalions were camped in the field closest to the farm, whilst the 5th and 6th Battalions were camped in the adjoining field. The solitary tree in the middle of the 6th Battalion camp (which is still standing today) provides a good reference point. The men’s tents are pitched in eight rows of 14 tents, with each row of 14 housing a Company of men. Visible in both pictures is a steam locomotive heading south towards Pencader where the Milford & Manchester Railway (M & MR) joined the Carmarthen & Cardigan Railway (C & CR). At this point the railway ran along a single track.

camp 2A second view of the camp from the HP Hansen Series (#1308)s-l1600

Yet another HP Hanson view of the Camp (#1300) and obviously taken much earlier because not all the tents are pitched

The Camping grounds around Aberystwyth were ideally suited for training large bodies of men. There was a plentiful supply of clean water and numerous roads, with little traffic, enabled efficient marching to and from the manoeuvring areas. Furthermore, each Camp was served by branches of the Cambrian Railways Company and had their own sidings that allowed the Army Service Corps and Royal Engineers to prepare the ground for the arrival of the troops and to keep them adequately supplied during their two weeks at camp.

stationThe closest station to the Camp was Llanrhystud Road station in Llanfarian (© Crown Copyright: Royal Commission on the Ancient and Historical Monuments of Wales 2006).

camp groundThe actual campsite was located on farm land close to Aberbrwynen and was bounded to the north by the Milford & Manchester Railway (M & MR) and to the south by the River Ystwyth. The closest station to the Camp was Llanrhystyd Road station in Llanfarian. The Territorial Army Camps around Aberystwyth had their own postal service (between 1910-1914) with unique post marks and local boys were paid as messengers receiving 5 shillings a week for 48 hours work.Campsite 2010The site of the Camp has changed little over the last 100 years, although the railway line has long been abandoned and the bridges across the river have fallen into disrepair (© Goggle 2013).

Camp 3

camp rTwo more photographs of the Brigade Camp and both cards are from the same unknown publisher. The latter picture shows horse ambulances of the 1st NMFA.


The 6th (Derbyshire) Battalion the Sherwood Foresters1612

Major Godfrey Goodman and men of the 6th Battalion arriving in Camp along the small track bordering the railway line. Also present is 1251 Sergt.-Major John Shepherd suggesting that this may be “G” (Clay Cross) Company, in which case 117 Col.-Sergt John Hoult can also be seen marching behind the Captain (HP Hansen #1612).


The Sergeant Instructors of the 6th Battalion

Permanant StaffSuperb photograph of the Eight Sergeant Instructors taken with Colonel Clayton.1912 SergeantsAmongst the Sergeant Instructors are the following:-

  • 4883 William James Keery
  • 2623 William Lewis Jackson
  • 1251 Hohn Shepherd
  • 4440 William Seaton
  • 966 WIlliam James Roberts

The machine gun section the 6th Battalion1613

The machine gun team on the moor above Llanfarian Camp (HP Hansen #1613).

This card was posted from Bakewell on the evening of August 12th, which suggests that it might show men from “D” (Bakewell, Tideswell and Stoney Middleton) Company. The card is addressed to Miss Turrall and signed “HDR”. HDR is in fact 479 Sergeant Henry Davies Rye, who was an architect by trade and lived at 47 Castle Street in Bakewell and Miss Turrall was his fiancé. Sergeant Rye is seated holding the dog and to the left is 248 Sergeant Joseph Needham next to the small boy.

ryeHenry Davies Rye was born in May 1880 in Helmsley, Yorkshire. He enlisted in April 1908 and was awarded the TFEM in April 1913. He served with “D” Company on mobilisation, but was subsequently Commissioned into the 8th Battalion Notts and Derby Regiment as a 2nd Lieutenant on 12th November 1914. He was promoted to Temporary Lieutenant in July 1915 and Temporary Captain in October 1915. Henry was married in 1913 to his fiancé Miss Turrall.

ryeHenry’s Attestation form is a superb example of the new “Territorial Force” documentation showing his previous service with the 2VB Notts & Derby Regt and is counter signed by Herbert Clifford Brook-Taylor (WO374).


“A” (Chesterfield) Company the 6th Battaliona coy1

a coy 2Two photographs showing men of “A” (Chesterfield) Company.

Top: NCOs and men of “A” (Chesterfield) Company preparing to pitch camp. The Officer in the foreground is Lieutenant William Broomhead. Bottom: a typical inspection. The Officer in front is Maj.-General H.I.W Hamilton and he is closely followed by the recently promoted Lieut.-Colonel JM Clayton. Immediately following these two Officers are Lieutenant Victor Robinson and Major Goodman. The Officer with the swagger stick is unidentified but behind him is Captain Arthur Hopkins (O/C A Company) and Surgeon Arthur Shea is walking purposefully up the left of the column (Both photographs are courtesy of Chesterfield Library).


“C” (Buxton) Company the 6th BattalionC Company

Captain Langford’s “C” (Buxton) Company at Aberystwyth Camp in August 1912 (H.P. Hansen series).

LangfordCaptain Valentine Henry Elmes Langford took Command of Letter C Company during 1910. On October 12th “C” Company won an Inter-Company Competition at Edale and was awarded the Battalion Challenge Shield. Each team had to march 6 miles from Hope Railway Station to Edale and then advance up the range firing at targets when exposed. Command of “C” Company transferred to Captain Charles Edgar Heathcote in the later half of 1912 when Langford was transferred to the TF Reserve. In addition to Captain Langford there are 97 NCOs and men gathered for the photograph.


“G” (Clay Cross) Company the 6th Battalion
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heath 2Two photographs taken by Albert Heath of Clay Cross and therefore may show men of “G” (Clay Cross) Company (# 52 & #152).

Scout badgeThe Corporal sitting third from the right is wearing a large 1st Class Battalion Scout badge on his right arm, whilst some of the men can be seen wearing the Imperial Service Badge. At the time of this photograph Captain Guy Nicholson was in Command of the Company.


1912Another photograph from A Heath of Clay Cross (#39) showing two young recruits.


“H” (Whaley Bridge & Hayfield) Company the 6th Battalion

Depledge 1910

Tom Depledge (right) and men of “H” Whaley Bridge & Hayfield Company. Image courtesy of Julian Thompsonh-company-1912


The Band of the 6th Battalion the Sherwood Forestersband

Band of the 6th Battalion. Seated is Colonel Clayton and to his right is Newton the Bandmaster (by J.H. Waterhouse of Cavendish Street in Chesterfield).


5th (Derby) Battalion the Sherwood Foresters
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 Officers and men of the 5th Battalion including 2nd Lieutenant Lewis wearing glasses (Hiam Liang #836).

The officer sitting next to Lewis is John Henry Frederick Marsden, who served in the South Africa War of 1901. He was with the 1/5th Battalion in 1915 and was wounded at Little Kemmel on the 3rd June 1915. Also present at the Hohenzollern Redoubt on 14th October 1915. He was promoted to Lt.-Col. Commanding 45th Divisional Training School between 1917-18. Commandant of the 46th Divisional Reception Camp in 1919 and in charge of Labour and Camps undertaking battlefield clearance in the Mons Area during February to August 1919. He was discharged in October 1919 (information courtesy of BRONNO).

The Sergeant in the middle of the back row is 201609 Sgt. Herbert Walker.

portraitPortrait of an unknown soldier (Hiam Liang #831)


The machine gun section the 5th Battalion
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Picture taken by A Heath from Clay Cross (#22) at the 1912 Abermaide Camp and showing the Machine Gun Section of the 5th Battalion. The Officer at the back is Henry Newton.

  • 2nd Lieut. 1st Volunteer Battalion The Sherwood Foresters, 28.4.1906.
  • Lieutenant 5th Battalion, 18.9.1909 and Captain 17.11.1912.
  • Lieut-Colonel and O.C. II Army R.E. Workshops 1915-17.

5th 19125th Battalion at a Church Parade. This card is part of the H P Hansen series (#1644) and was sent from Ethal Woodward to her brother Thomas Mattewson Woodward who was a railway clerk and in 1911 the family lived at 35 Gerard Street in Derby. I can find no evidence that Tom served with the pre-War ~Territorials, but interestingly his father (also called Thomas Matthewson) had previously served with the Grenadier Guards (1879-91) before transferring to the permanent staff of the 1st Volunteer Battalion the Derbyshire Regiment in November 1891.woodward

Tom Woodward (Snr) was discharged from the 1st VB Derbyshire Regiment in October 1908.


“A’ Company the 5th Battalion5th Abermaide 1912a15th Abermaide 1912a3

Two photographs showing 1578 Pte. Percy Wildsmith (with cross over head and bottom right in lower picture), possibly of “A” Company. Both of these postcards are part of the H. P. Hansen Series. For more information on Percy please see here.


8th (Nottinghamshire) Battalionbar

“With very good wish to the Sergeants of H Co, from the Waiter”.

This fantastically detailed picture shows a Sergeant’s mess that is well stocked with Allsopp’s beer at the annual camp of 1912. Standing at the bar is 2 Regimental Quartermaster Sergeant Harry Petrie.  Also present in the picture are several other sergeants relaxing in blue patrols or mess jackets. The tall man standing at the back is possibly a Police Sub Inspector of a the Cardiganshire Constabulary.allsopps Allsopps-AleSamuel Allsopp & Sons was one of the largest brewery companies operating in Burton-upon-Trent and would have been a local brewery for Castle Gresley which was the home station for “H” (Swadlincote) Company, 5th Notts & Derby.

petrieHarry Petrie was born in Winchester in 1872 but moved to Derby where he was a sorting clerk and telegraphist. He enlisted in to the 5th Battalion on the 1st April 1908 having previously served in the 1st VB, the Sherwood Foresters from 1890. He arrived in France on the 1st March 1915 and was discharged time expired in April 1916, aged 44.

petrie MICMedal Index Card for 2 Harry Petrie showing that he was entitled to the 14-15 Star, British War and Victory Medal and Silver War badge. He was later Commissioned as a Warrant Officer Class 2 (WO372).


“E” (Carlton) Company 8th Battalion
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Letter “E” (Carlton) Company, 8th (Nottinghamshire) Battalion Sherwood Foresters (Notts and Derby) Regiment (H.P. Hansen #1809)

The column of men are being led on horseback by Lt.-Colonel George Saville Foljambe and Major Thomas William Huskinson. 461 Sergeant Charles Rhymes is clearly visible between these two officers. The men are walking down from the brick railway bridge and passing through the gate leading to the camp. The effects of the unseasonal rain on the muddy track can be seen and this heavy rain would have hampered many of the training exercise planned for the Camp. Charles and Thomas Huskinson both served in the 4th VB and 8th Battalion and lived at the Manour House in Epperstone (Mel Siddons).


shooting teamOfficers and men of “E” (Carlton) Company, 8th Battalion, winners the Brigadier’s cup (H.P. Hansen un-numbered)

The Cup was presented by the Brigade Commander to the winning section in the Sherwood Foresters Brigade competition on a 30-yards range. In 1912 this was won by a section of E Company who narrowly beat a section of Captain A. N. Lee’s Company in the 7th Battalion. Front row from left: 412 Sergeant Charles Rhymes, Lt.-Col. George Saville Foljambe, 2nd Lieutenant Francis George Cursham, Captain & Adjutant Hugh Bliss Tarriant Humes and 2nd Lieutenant Gerald Clarke. Standing in the middle of the back row is RSM Westerman.


412 Sergeant Charles Herbert Rhymes

412 RhymesCharles Rhymes was born in Nottingham in April 1885. He originally enlisted into the 4th Notts VB on the 10th November 1903 in Radcliffe-on-Trent and was posted to “E” Company. He re-enlisted into the newly established 8th Battalion Notts & Derby Regiment on 5th April 1908 and remained with “E” Company. At this time he was living at 54 Deabill Street in Netherfield and worked for the Great Northern Railway as a servant. He married Eliza in 1905 and in total they had four children; Charles (b. 19.12.05), Dorothy (b. 19.9.07), George (b. 6.5.10) and Dallas (b. 29.1.15). He was promoted to Lance Corporal in 1909 and to Sergeant in 1910. He attended the Annual Camps at Scarborough (in 1908, 1909 and 1911), Hindlow (1910), Aberystwyth (1912), Thornsby Park (1913) and Hummanby (1914). At the outbreak of the War Charles was working as a Colliery Shunter and was living at 81 Priory Road in Gelding. Charles arrived in France on the 25th June 1915 with the 1st Reinforcement to the 1/8th Battalion, but returned to England two months later suffering from rheumatism. Following postings to the 8th Reserve Battalion in Ballyvonare Camp at Buttevant in County Cork, he was finally discharged on the 3rd September 1916 and received a pension for 12 months. Subsequent medical boards in 1917 and 1918 failed to grant him an extension to his army pension.

campsArmy Service Record of Charles Rhymes recording his attendance at all the Annual Camps between 1908 and 1914 (WO363).


pc backA postcard sent from Charles Rhymes to his wife Eliza. Posted in Llanfarian on Friday August 16th we learn that the 8th Battalion were leaving on Sunday 18th August at 11.45am and were due to arrive at Carlton Railway Station between 8 and 9pm. This is one of the series produced by HP Hansen of Ashbourne.


8thIn the two photographs above we see Charles Rhymes and other N.C.O.s of “E” Company taken at various Territorial Camps taken between 1909 and 1913. In the right hand photograph the men are wearing new leather bandolier equipment, which had been issued to the battalion whilst they were in Divisional camp at Hindlow in 1910.


3400 RSM Edward Arthur WestermanWestermann photo

In the photograph standing on the far right is Edward Arthur Westerman a veteran of the Tirah and Boer War and later R.S.M. (the 8th Battalion). He was later Commissioned into the 6th Battalion ( 2/Lt 22.6.1916 & Lt 22.12.1917).

Westermann

Edward was born in 1873 and enlisted into the 4th Nottinghamshire Militia as Private 1479 in October 1891 and was then living in Regents Street in Beeston. He served as a Lance Corproal with “D” Company the 2nd Battalion in the Tirah Campaign of 1897-98. He was severely wounded by a gunshot received at Khorappa in India on the 25th October 1897. He was promoted Corporal on the 19th May 1900 and awarded Long Service & Good Condcuct Medal on 1st July 1910. He lived 31 Scott St. in Derby and died 1951 (Information courtesy of Mel Siddons).

Westermann Service


2nd Lieutenant Francis George CurshamCursham

Francis George Cursham was born on 6th February 1889 and was educated at Repton College. 2/Lt 8th Battalion The Sherwood Foresters 26th April 1909, Lieutenant 14th March 1910, Captain with the 2/8th Battalion 4th August 1914, Major 1st June 1916.

During the Irish Rebellion of 1916 he was wounded by rifle fire when attacking the rebels holding Clan William House on Mount Street Bridge, Dublin. He served with the Regiment during the Great War and died of wounds in an accident at Aldershot on the 31st August 1918, and is buried in Holme Pierrepont Churchyard near Nottingham.Cursham granve and memorialCursham CWGC


8th (Nottinghamshire) Battalion camp activities
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UntitledPhotographs of the 8th Battalion Notts and Derby showing men of the transport section (top) and the Bugle Band (bottom). Both are from the HP Hansen series of 1912 (#1820 & #1828) and show the men busy in Camp performing their specialist roles.


8th Camp 1912Huskinson PC back 1912

A post card sent from Major Charles John Huskinson (CJH) to his wife Annie informing her that he had arrived safely and that the weather is ‘awfully wet’. A H. P. Hansen card (#1855) showing a drum head church parade. An accompanying card (#1853) shows a different angle.


7th (Nottingham) Battalionbugle band

Bugle band of the 7th (Robin Hood Rifles) Battalion in 1912 (unknown publisher)


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Group of 6th Battalion men (unknown publisher).

shoulder badgesThe background clearly places the men at the Abermaide campsite in 1912 but there are several inconsistencies. The man at bottom right is wearing both a standard 3-tier “Notts-and-Derby” and a 5-tier “T-6-Notts-and-Derby” shoulder titles. In addition the man standing in the middle is not even wearing a cap badge. These two findings might suggest that these men have recently enlisted in the 6th Battalion and that equipment was in short supply, indeed it is known that approximately 250 men enlisted between January and December 1912.unknown 1912bugle


group 2Group of 5th Battalion men (unknown publisher).

badgeThe men are in Tunic Order and two soldiers are believed to be wearing “SB” badges denoting them as Stretcher Bearers. The Officer is  John Henry Frederick Marsden.


NMFARear Party of the 1st North Midland Field Ambulance (unknown publisher).

NMFA2The men of the 1st NM Field Ambulance were camped with the Sherwood Foresters Brigade on the banks of the River Ystwyth.


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Another Hiam Lang photograph showing men from the 5th or 6th Battalion Battalion, the Leicestershire Regiment. The man kneeling on the left is Benjamin William Sturgess who was born 1889 in Long Eaton, Derbyshire but spent most of his life (before his marriage in 1919) in Mountsorrel, Leicestershire. Photograph courtesy of Annice Hanson – Benjamin’s grand daughter.


Other Notable Events

  • Colour-Sergeant W Baker of “D” Company was 16th in Queen Mary’s.
  • 5169 Sergt-Inst L Turner returned to 2nd Battn.
  • 9153 Sergeant J Hardy posted from 2nd Battn.
  • Sergeant W Knight posted from 2nd Battn.
  • Sergeant Buckley to pension.
  • Lieut.-Colonel GM Jackson retired on the completion of his extended term in command. Lieut.-Colonel GM Jackson took the Battalion over from Colonel Herbert Brooke-Taylor in May 1904.
  • Major John Morton Clayton was promoted to Lieut.-Colonel. John Morton Clayton was born on 17th November 1857 in Chesterfield and  was gazetted 2nd Lieutenant in the 2VB on 4th April 1891; promoted to Lieutenant on 4th February 1893, Captain on 10th June 1896 and Major on 11th June 1904. For eight years he commanded A Company at Chesterfield. He was Major of Chesterfield on several occasions and a Magistrate. He played cricket twice for Derbyshire but had only modest success. He died on 1st April 1938 in West Southbourne, Hampshire aged 80.
  • Captain Arthur John Hopkins (OC “A” Company)
  • Captain Edgar Horace Heathcote (OC “C” Company) transferred from the Unattached List
  • Captain Henry Welch (OC “B” Company)
  • Captain Reginald Saxby (OC “H” Company from Major E Hall)
  • Captain and Hon. Major Edward Hall promoted to Major
  • Lieutenant Reginald Saxby promoted to Captain
  • Lieutenant Basil Hawthorne Winder promoted to Captain
  • Lieutenant Charles Harold Heathcote promoted to Captain and transferred to the Unattached List
  • Lieutenant Frank Mackenzie Dick transferred from 5th York and Lancs
  • Lieutenant Evelyn Brownlow Johnson resigned his Commission
  • 2nd Lieutenant Basil Darbyshire promoted to Lieutenant
  • 2nd Lieutenant Cyril Benton Johnson promoted to Lieutenant
  • 2nd Lieutenant Joseph Harry Mason Humble promoted to Lieutenant
  • 2nd Lieutenant WT Marshall gazetted to the Battalion
  • 2nd Lieutenant Joseph Tolson gazetted to the Battalion and posted to B Company

Strength of Battalion on 1st November 1912

31 Officers
962 Other Ranks

26 Officers and 723 other ranks had accepted liability for Imperial Service abroad.

In addition to the establishment, the Battalion also had 1 Adjutant, 8 Sergeant-Instructors, 2 Medical Officers, 2 Chaplains and 2 Officers and 29 other ranks of the Territorial Force Reserve.


Men known to have enlisted into the 6th Battalion between 3rd January and 20th December 1912

During this time the Battalion issued numbers from 1522 to 1772; 250 men in total, which represents a quarter of the entire strength of the Battalion.

The reason for this large number of new recruits might lie in the fact that many of the men that enlisted in 1908 did so for 3 years and therefore became “time expired” in April 1912.

1grayAmongst the men that enlisted were John Gray and his friend Harold White who were attested into Captain Blackwell’s “D” Company at Stoney Middleton on the 21st March by Lieutenant HC Brooke Taylor. John and Harold were both 17 years old and were shoemaker riveters by trade, with John working for Mason Brothers and Harold at Cockers (WO363).


1912 Nominal Role

  • 1522           Benjamin Stubbins (aged 15 and a labourer from Chesterfield)
  • 1524           James Shirt (aged 17 and a labourer from Chinley)
  • John Blood
  • 1527           Frederick J Smith
  • 1529           Percy Orwin (aged 20 and a Miner from North Wingfield)
  • 1531           Walter Upton (aged 23 and a miner from Clowne)
  • 1532           John Greaves (aged 20 and a labourer from Stonebroom)
  • 1533           Walter Lager (aged 25 and a decorator from Chesterfield)
  • 1534           Oswald E Dickenson (aged 16 and an engineers tuner from Chesterfield)
  • 1535           Joseph Harold Heather
  • 1536           Trevor Richardson (aged 27 and a farm labourer from Ashbourne)
  • 1537           Archibold Galbraith
  • 1538           Samuel Littleford (aged 18 and print works labourer from Thornsett)
  • 1539           John Hill (aged 15 and a general labourer from Birch Vale)
  • 1540           Allen Mason (aged 21 and a copper roller engraver from New Mills)
  • 1541           Walter Trevitt Harrison (aged 17 and a labourer from Hayfield)
  • 1542           John Thomas Kirton (aged 17 and a labourer from Hayfield)
  • 1543           Harry Jodrell (aged 16 and a Bleach works labourer from Whaley Bridge)
  • 1544           Henry King (aged 19 and a dyer from Hayfield)
  • 1545           William Winterbottom (aged 17 and a labourer from Little Hayfield)
  • 1547           Alfred Townsend
  • 1550           William Hulse (aged 20 and a collier from Fernilee)
  • 1551           Herbert Lomas (aged 18 and a collier from Whaley Bridge)
  • 1552           Walter Phillipps (aged 18 and print works labourer from New Mills)
  • 1553           Charles Eli Porter (aged 18 and from Dove Holes)
  • 1554           Roy Woodhouse (aged 19 and painter decorator from Matlock)
  • 1555           Percy Wibberley (aged 17 and a farm Waggoner from Parwich)
  • 1556           Berty Wyche (aged 19 and a mill hand from Ashbourne)
  • 1557           Leonard Bagshaw (aged 21 and a collier from Whaley Bridge)
  • 1558           Arthur Broadhead
  • 1559           Fred Garlick (aged 17 and a collier from Kettleshulme)
  • 1560           James Thomas (aged 19 and a labourer from Chesterfield)
  • 1561           Leonard Davis (aged 18 and a coal mine trammer from Brimington)
  • 1562           Sydney Boothby (aged 17 and a gun po wder labourer from Fernilee)
  • 1563           Harry Depledge (aged 17 and a  pony driver from Chapel-en-le-Frith)
  • 1564           Samuel Hyde (aged 16 and a print works labourer from Birch Vale)
  • 1565           Squire Buckley Liddiard (aged 16 and a calico bleach worker from New Mills)
  • 1566           Percival Jackson (aged 22 and a dyer from Chinley)
  • 1568           George Barnes  (aged 19 and a bleacher from Chinley)
  • 1570           Joseph Martin (aged 17 and a Labourer from Chapel-en-le-Frith)
  • 1571           Henry Leech (aged 19 and a Carter from Chapel-en-le-Frith)
  • 1573           George William Turner (aged 18 and a printer from Matlock)
  • 1574           John William Hopkins (aged 17 and a Groom Gardener from Matlock)
  • 1575           William Cartledge (aged 18 and a labourer from Litton)
  • 1576           Robert Lomas (aged 32 and a gasser from Litton)
  • 1577           Samuel Waterhouse (aged 17 and a Bleach Works Labourer from Chinley)
  • 1578           Peter Bates (aged 17 and a miner hauler from Clay Cross)
  • 1579           Patrick Fox (aged 19 and coal miner filler from Clay Cross)
  • 1582           William Smith (aged 17 and a Labourer from Hayfield)
  • 1583           William Else (aged 31 and a labourer from Wirksworth)
  • 1584           Walter Wright (aged 18 and a Quarryman from Bakewell)
  • 1585           Fred Clarke (aged 22 and a farmer from Whitwell)
  • 1587           Daniel White
  • 1588           Walter Wragg (aged 17 and a cotton apprentice from Tideswall)
  • 1591           Jack Guy
  • 1592           Walter Blake (aged 17 and a cotton winder from Little Hucklow)
  • 1593           James Bennett (aged 22 and a labourer from Bugsworth)
  • 1594           Joseph Hughes (aged 19 and a bleach works labourer from Whaley Bridge)
  • Thomas Henshaw (aged 16 and Piecer from Ashbourne)
  • 1596           Norman Leslie Horobin (aged 15 and a Carter from Chesterfield)
  • 1597           Ernest Cutts (aged 20 and a collier from Staveley)
  • 1598           George Henry Morley (aged 18 and a coal miner from Brimington)
  • 1599           Ephraim Pratt (aged 18 and a core maker from Staveley)
  • 1600           John William Pratt (aged 22 and a pipe moulder from Brimington)
  • 1601           William Henry Taylor (aged 19 and a pipe shop fitter from Brimington)
  • 1602           Norman Woolley (aged 18 and a coal miner from Brimington)
  • 1603           John William Gray (aged 17 and a shoemakers riveter from Stoney Middleton)
  • 1604           Harold White (aged 17 and a shoemakers riveter from Stoney Middleton)
  • 1605           Frank Pollard (aged 17 and a pony driver from Staveley)
  • 1608           Fred Smith (aged 17 and a mason’s labourer from Matlock Bank)
  • 1609           John Arthur Tomlinson (aged 34 and a boot maker from Matlock)
  • 1610           Samuel George Vearnals (aged 33 and a labourer from Matlock Bank)
  • 1611           John Vallance (aged 17 and a stone breaker from Matlock)
  • 1614           James Shemwell (aged 19 and a miner loader from Clay Cross)
  • 1615           Ernest Marshall
  • 1618           John Howe (aged 20 and a miner from Tideswall)
  • 1619           Harry Bunting (aged 17 and a labourer from Bonsall)
  • 1620           David Clough (aged 18 and a labourer from Wirksworth)
  • 1621           Henry Holmes (aged 20 and a cotton spinner from Bonsall)
  • 1623           Joshua Oldfield aged 18 and a labourer from Wirksworth)
  • 1624           Samuel Pearson (aged 19 and a labourer from Wirksworth)
  • 1625           Samuel Thompson (aged 19 and a cotton tape weaver from Wirksworth)
  • 1626           Leonard Bagshaw (aged 20 and a miner from Clowne)
  • 1628           Fred Posonby (aged 17 and a miner from Cressbrook near Litton)
  • 1631           Maurice Limb (aged 20 and a mechanic from Matlock Bath)
  • 1633           Norman Morrall (aged 17 and a blacksmith from Chinley)
  • 1634           Sydney Taylor
  • 1635           Samuel Roose (aged 38 and a gritstone quarryman from Matlock bank)
  • 1637           Thomas Wheatcroft (aged 25 and a gas works labourer from Matlock Bank)
  • 1639           Sam Peach (aged 19 and a farm labourer from Tansley)
  • 1640           George Ulyatt (aged18 and a cotton and tape bleacher from Tansley)
  • 1642           John Augustine Kelly (aged 20 and collier dataller from Chesterfield)
  • 1643           James William Sullivan (aged 18 and a mine pony driver from Chesterfield)
  • 1644           James Chatterton (aged 20 and a print works labourer from Birch Vale)
  • 1645           Percy Hancock (aged 17 and a builder from Brimington)
  • 1648           Samuel Gilbody (aged 24 and a coal miner from Stanton Hill)
  • 1649           Joseph Charles Shore (aged 17 and a miner from North Wingfield)
  • W Lightfoot
  • George Marper (aged 18 and a below ground rope man from Eckington)
  • 1652           John Henry Crowder (aged 18 and a gardener from Newbold)
  • 1655           Albert Henry Bradley (aged 19 and an iron moulders labourer from Chesterfield)
  • Hedley Bennett (aged 17 and a general labourer from Peak Dale)
  • Tom Bennett (aged 18 and a Waggoner from Peak Dale)
  • 1658           William Booth (aged 21 and a limestone quarryman from Peak Dale)
  • 1659           Joseph Byatt (aged 19 and a limestone quarryman from Peak Dale)
  • 1660           William Cartledge (aged 26 and a lime burner from Peak Dale)
  • 1661           James Ferris (aged 17 and a rope trimmer from Peak Dale)
  • 1662           Samuel Harrison (aged 25 and a limestone quarryman from Wormhill)
  • 1663           Henry Hodgkinson (aged 17 and a limestone quarryman from Wormhill)
  • 1664           Jesse Middleton (aged 18 and a stone quarry Waggoner from Peak Dale)
  • 1665           Douglas Mullins (aged 17 and a Waggoner from Peak Dale)
  • 1666           James William Owen (aged 19 and a limestone quarryman from Peak Dale)
  • 1667           Samuel Henry Yates (aged 19 and a limestone quarryman from Wormhill)
  • 1668           William Thompson
  • 1669         William Joseph Crick (aged 25 and a Railway Porter from Chesterfield)
  • 1671         Frank Mills (aged 30 and a leather dresser from Chesterfield)
  • 1672         George Shaw
  • 1673         J Sheppard
  • 1674         Theodore Flaxman (aged 17 and a fitter from Chesterfield)
  • 1675         Bernard Bramhall (aged 18 and moulder from Whittington Moor)
  • 1678         Christopher Blankley (aged 31 and a coal miner hewer from Brimington0
  • 1679         Charles Smith (aged 17 and a coal miner from Chesterfield)
  • 1680         Clarence (Richard) Wagg (aged 17 and a miner from Chesterfield)
  • 1681         George Byfleet (aged 19 and a moulder from Whittington Moor)
  • 1682         Sydney Buffey (aged 17 and a mess room boy from Hasland)
  • 1684         Charles Edward Arthur Green (aged 19 and a labourer from Chesterfield)
  • 1685         William Broughton (aged 20 and from Brimington)
  • 1687         Willie Coleman (aged 25 and a miner from Renishaw)
  • 1689         Frank Morgan (aged 20 and a miner from Balborough)
  • 1690         Frederick Walter Phillips (aged 21 and a miner from Clowne)
  • 1691         Harry Edmund Hand (aged 34 and a wagon driver from Old Whittington)
  • 1692         George Henry Lester (aged 17 and an engineer from Birdholme)
  • 1693         Cyril Herrett (aged 16 and a coal miner from Stonegravels)
  • 1694         John Henry Goddard (aged 17 and a boot riveter from Stoney Middleton)
  • 1696         George Rodgers (aged 20 and a miner from Barlborough)
  • 1697         Willie Hodkin
  • 1699         George William Wall (aged 18 and a stone cutter from Darley Dale)
  • 1701         Harry Ellison
  • 1702         Albert Maxfield (aged 19 and a miner from Renishaw)
  • 1704         John Spencer Hall (aged 32 from Clowne)
  • 1705         Thomas Alexander Hetherington (aged 20 and a law clerk)
  • 1706         Eric Scott Morgan (aged 17 and a farm worker from Monyash)
  • 1708         Frank Fisher Bennett (aged 20 and coal miner rope man from Duckmanton)
  • 1709         Albert Smith
  • 1710         Arthur Jodrell (aged 17 and a collier from Whaley Bridge)
  • 1711         William Littlewood (aged 32 and a carter from Whaley Bridge)
  • 1712         William Wilson (aged 17 and a tile maker from Bugsworth)
  • 1713         George Pratley (aged 19 and an engine cleaner from Darley Dale)
  • 1714         John McTigh
  • Harry Hibbs (aged 17 and a storeman from Rowsley)
  • Henry Bacon
  • 1720         Frank Longdon (aged 30 and a coal miner filler from Chesterfield)
  • 1721         Cuthbert (Bertie) Longson (aged 16 and a moulder from Chapel-en-le-frith)
  • 1722         Christopher Niven (aged 17 and a joiner from Chapel-en-le-frith)
  • John William Booker (aged 21 and a coal miner loader from Holmewood)
  • Bernhard Frost (aged 16 and a coal miner pony driver from Clay Cross)
  • 1726         John Thomas Hughes (aged 29 and a colliery motor man from Brimington)
  • 1727         Ambrose Clarke (aged 19 and a miner from Clay Cross)
  • 1728         James Potter
  • 1729         Thomas Beswick (aged 18 and a lime kiln worker from Peak Dale)
  • 1730         John William Charles Boam (aged 21 and a lime kiln worker from Peak Dale)
  • 1731         George Davenport (aged 18 and a farm labourer from Peak Forest)
  • 1732         George Rowland Greenhalgh (aged 20 and a electrical driller from Peak Dale)
  • 1733         John Thomas Mason (aged 22 an a lime kiln shunter from Peak Dale)
  • 1734         Thomas Owen (aged 17 an a lime kiln worker from Peak Dale)
  • 1735         Harry Sidebottom (aged 17 and a black smith sriker from Peak Dale)
  • William Henry Stuart (aged 22 and a and a lime kiln worker from Peak Dale)
  • Alvin Paget (aged 23 and a miner dataler from Bolsover)
  • 1739         John Bower (aged 17 and a lime kiln worker from Peak Dale)
  • William Holmes (aged 24 and a lime kiln worker from Buxton)
  • 1741         Joseph Longdon Mason (aged 26 and a lime kiln worker from Peak Dale)                 
  • 1742        James Bradford Lytle (aged 16 and a clerk from Ashbourne)
  • 1743        William Alexander Lytle (aged 50 and a clerk from Ashbourne)
  • 1744        William Tasker Turner (aged 19 and a cabinet maker from Chesterfie
  • Daniel Blood (aged 24 and a mill hand from Mayfield near Ashbourne)
  • 1748        WT Sydney Smith
  • 1750        Edward Huddlestone White
  • 1751        Bernhard Mills (aged 15 and was an optician from Spital, Chesterfield)
  • 1752        Albert Richardson (aged 20 and a labourer from Chapel-en-le-Frith)
  • 1753        John Mellor
  • 1754        William Jodrell (aged 20 and a collier from Whaley Bridge)
  • 1755        Samuel Drabble (aged 18 and a collier from Whaley Bridge)
  • 1756        Leonard Blanksby (aged 17 and a pipe moulder from Chesterfield)
  • 1757        Ernest Gartside Lynn (aged 18 and a iron moulder from Chesterfield)
  • 1759        William Beard (aged 19 and a cab driver from Matlock)
  • 1760        John Gibbs (aged 21 and a grocers assistant from Bolsolver)
  • 1761        Richard Slack (aged 18 and a collier from Clay Cross)
  • 1763        Fred Weatherley aged 28 and a print works labourer from New Mills)
  • 1764        Peter Whalley (aged 19 and a coal miner datler from Pilsley)
  • 1765        Ernest Whalley (aged 17 and coal miner stainer from Pilsley)
  • 1766        Joseph Clarke (from Chesterfield)
  • 1767        William John McFarlane (aged 36 and a musician from Sheffield)
  • 1769        Harold Marsh (aged 17 and a plate layer from Spital, Chesterfield)
  • 1770        George Henry Clements (aged 19 and a miner from Pilsley)
  • 1771        Charles Tunnicliffe (age 18 and a baker from Ashbourne)
  • 1772        William Henry Fountain (aged 22 from Chesterfield)

12 thoughts on “1912: And a change in Command

  1. Mel Siddons

    Re, (two photographs from Hiam Lang of Cardiff. Top: Officers and men of the 5th Battalion including 2nd Lieutenant Lewis (#836) and bottom: portrait of an unknown soldier (#831).)
    The officer sitting next to Lewis is John Henry Frederick Marsden, served in South Africa war of 1901. Was with the 1/5th Battalion, Wounded at Little Kemmel, on the 3rd June 1915 and was present at the Hohenzollern Redoubt on 14th October 1915. He was promoted to Lt/Col Commanding 45th Divisional Training School 1917-18. Commandant of the 46th Divisional Reception Camp 1919. In charge of Labour and Camps cleaning up Mons Area in February 1919 to August 1919 and was discharged in October 1919. Mel.

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  2. Mel Siddons

    On the post card of Rhymes (kneeling next to the officer), standing on the right is Edward Arthur Westerman a veteran of the Tirah and Boer War later RSM (8th Btn) and later commissioned into I believe the 6th Battalion ( 2/Lt 22.6.1916, Lt 22.12.1917). He was born in 1873 and enlisted into the 4th Notts Militia as Private 1479 in October 1891 then living in Regents Street, Beeston, Nottingham. Served with 2nd Battalion in the Tirah Campaign of 1897-98, 3400. L/Cpl. Served with “D” company. He was severely wounded by gunshot received at Khorappa in India on the 25th October 1897, Promoted Corporal on the 19th May 1900. He was awarded LS&GC on 1st July 1910. Lived 31 Scott St, Derby. Died 1951. If you need a picture let me know.
    Mike, hope you don’t mind me inserting these replies as some of the faces in your images are known to me, if you prefer I can email you in the future. Kind regards.

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    1. mikebriggs1910 Post author

      Mel, I’m really very happy that you are commenting on these photos and can provide names to some of these faces. The more the better! Using this ‘comment function’ is a good way to do it because it keeps an online record (that’s the scientist in me!), thanks again Mike.

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  3. Mel

    Mike,
    In the picture unknown 2/Lt sitting middle row is Francis George Cursham who was born 6th February 1889 and was educated at Repton College. 2/Lt 8th Battalion The Sherwood Foresters 26th April 1909, Lieutenant 14th March 1910, Captain with the 2/8th Battalion 4th August 1914, Major 1st June 1916. During the Irish Rebellion of 1916 he was wounded by rifle fire when attacking the rebels holding Clan William House on Mount Street Bridge, Dublin. He served with the Regiment during the Great War and died of wounds in an accident at Aldershot on the 31st August 1918, he is buried in Holme Pierrepont Churchyard near Nottingham.
    Also with regards to the picture of Colonel Foljambe leading the men out of camp on horseback, I am pretty sure the other officer is Major Thomas William Huskinson and not Charles John Huskinson they are brothers and look very similar. They came from a very well to do family in Epperstone living at the Manor House and both served at the same time with the 4th Notts VB (later 8th Btn).

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    1. Mel

      Yes, as far as I know Francis George is the son of Henry Alfred Cursham who served with the Robin Hood Rifles circa 1885, also father of Captain Curzon Cursham who also served with the 2/8th Battalion. So two brothers being present in Dublin during the rising in 1916, more info if you need it. Mel.

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      1. Diane Kidger

        Hello

        St Edmunds Church Holme Pierrepont (where Major Cursham is buried) asked me to help to find relatives of the names on the 1st World War Memorial on the Lych Gate at the Church in order to invite them to the Remembrance Service in November. The memorial is unusual as the names on one plate are those who did not return and those on the other side of the gate are those who did return.

        There are 20 names from eleven families on the memorial and to date we have been able to contact a number of families, but there are still eight names from 5 families for whom we would like to find relatives.

        With the research has come a lot of information, so at the Service we will putting on a display of short biographies for each name. Last night I was writing up Major Cursham and with great interest came across your website outlining his military career. Major Cursham’s father Henry Alfred did indeed play football for the national side 8 times and holds the record for scoring the most goals in the FA Cup by playing for Notts County in the period 1877 – 1887 when he scored 49. Also I have a press cutting of the funeral of Major Cursham.

        Curzon Cursham’s name is on the memorial as a returning soldier, but I know very little about his military service apart from serving in the 8th Sherwoods and reached the rank of Lieutenant as inscribed on the memorial.

        Others names on the memorial that served with the Sherwoods are Private Joseph Rodgers Brewitt service number 1683 and 305222 1/8 Sherwood Foresters and 2nd Lieutenant Joseph William Pell of the 12th Sherwoods. I do have information about their families and domestic life but do you have any military information about any of these people that you could share with me?

        I have also just discovered that the Cursham brother’s sister Frances married Lieu R.S. Challands in 1912, but his name does not appear on the memorial. According to the 1918 absent voters list for Holme Pierrepont he served with No 6 Co 5th (R) Bn Grenadier Guards.

        Thank you for any help you can give to my research

        Kind Regards

        Diane Kidger

  4. dianekidgerbassingfieldbees

    Hello Mike

    I do not wish to hurry you but I have to have all the biogs of the soldiers named on the Holme Pierrepont War memorial completed by this Sunday at the latest in order to prepare for the small exhibition we are putting on for the Service at St Edmunds, so any information would be greatly appreciated.

    A question about Joseph Rodgers Brewitt of the 8th Sherwoods. I have done a search of his name on Google which brings me to your website, but as I cannot find him can you please direct to the page?

    Look forward to hearing from you shortly

    Best Wishes

    Diane

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      1. dianekidgerbassingfieldbees

        Mike

        I have received it thank you very much and I now need to ‘decipher’ them and use the information for the biogs.

        A relative of Curzon Cursham is attending the Remembrance Service and has sent us a brief biog of the brothers lives before and after the war.

        Thank you once again for your help. Albeit only 100 years ago it has been extremely difficult – but interesting and challenging – researching the lives of these men when all we had to start with were the names on the war memorial.

        Regards

        Diane

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